[Meeting] Re: meeting: Pan African Brethren Conference on Missions (8th - 12th Nov)

[Phil Nickerson]

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> To: 	Don Andersen; meeting at kent.net
> Subject: 	Re: meeting: Pan African Brethren Conference on Missions (8th  -  12th Nov)
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At 01:53 AM 30/10/2004, Don Andersen wrote:


>Phil,
>
>You said:
>
>As proven Don, you have given only silly arguments to support taking names 
>/ titles upon certain of God's people to the exclusion of the rest.
>
>There is no way you nor anyone else can grapple anything to support this 
>which is actually condemned in Scripture, i.e. 1Cor 1:12-13.
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>
>Now who's being silly.  You are constantly affirming that there are a 
>select few that have the Lord in their midst.  You don't see this as 
>excluding the rest?


Don,

You have strayed off the main subject. As to who's being silly, where am I 
"constantly affirming" a select few having the Lord in their midst? If a 
company of the Lord's people are gathered together in His Name, then the 
promise is of the Lord's presence in their midst.

The subject and emphasis of this particular thread though, has actually 
been the adopting of names, such as the old "brethren" title, and not of 
where the Lord's presence is or not.

Your problem as I pointed out to you before, is your attitude towards 
certain of God's people who might or might not have a sectarian spirit 
amongst them. You're quick to condemn them, and yet you'll turn right 
around and warrant names such as "The brethren" to certain of God's people 
to the exclusion of the rest.

I'll be the first to agree that sectarianism runs rampant amongst *some* of 
the assemblies. But this sir, has no bearing on trying to justify 
unscriptural names to certain of God's people.




>1 Cor. 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and 
>I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was 
>Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
>
>This passage is supposed to be condemning having a name on the building in 
>which our assembly meets?



So far, you have made two mistakes in this posting. The first already 
pointed out to you, and now this.

I really have not been stating anything about buildings. Thus it seems once 
again you are reading things into the text that comes from your own reasoning.

Rather, what 1Cor 1:12-13 does, is condemn the very root of what I have 
tried to point out to you and others over the years, and that being the 
mistake of calling ourselves by names that are not God given.

So now you come back and talk (actually type) about the passage, (quote) 
..."supposed to be condemning having a name on the building where our 
assembly meets" (end quote)... which is totally off the rails.

This goes right back to your thinking process, and your attitude towards 
certain of God's people.

You watch a Calvinist Don ... when he reads the Scriptures, he sees 
Calvinism in almost every place he reads. Watch those who believe baptismal 
regeneration, and he'll see baptism in a lot of what he reads, when 
actually that particular Scripture has nothing to do with baptism at all.

And you're really doing the same exact thing Don. Not Calvinism, or 
baptismal regeneration, but you've got a real hangup obviously about where 
the Lord's presence is or isn't, and you are supposedly seeing that in much 
of what you read, when it actually isn't there at all.

That this is true is seen in this very posting. The subject has been the 
right or wrong of taking names that do not apply to all of God's people, 
and suddenly you've fell right off the rails and accuse me of making 
statements of where the Lord's presence is or isn't. Again, that really 
hasn't anything to do with the taking of unbiblical names to certain of 
God's people at all.



>   That's funny! :)  Note: IS CHRIST DIVIDED?  WHO says they alone have 
> Christ in their Midst?  Isn't that dividing Christ?  Just HOW does a name 
> like, for example, Mebane Gospel Chapel, divide Christ?  There is nothing 
> about that name that says they are the only ones to have Christ in their midst.


Here again is a proof of what I have just stated. Where have I stated that 
a so called "Gospel hall" or "Gospel chapel" has or doesn't have the Lord's 
presence in their midst.


Phil Nickerson



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