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<P><B><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">From:</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">owner-meeting@kent.net on behalf of Jones, Rob (SF02)[SMTP:ROB.JONES@HONEYWELL.COM]
<BR></FONT><B><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Sent:</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Friday, October 29, 2004 7:44:04 AM
<BR></FONT><B><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">To:</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">meeting@kent.net
<BR></FONT><B><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Subject:</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">RE: meeting: Elders or Assembly decisions
<BR></FONT><B><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Auto forwarded by a Rule</FONT></B></P>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=420535004-29102004>Hi
Don</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=420535004-29102004><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#008080 size=3><FONT size=2> 1Co
1:1</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000> Paul, called </FONT><I><FONT
color=#808080>to be</I></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000> an
apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes </FONT><I><FONT
color=#808080>our</I></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000>
brother,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#008080><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004> </SPAN>1Co 1:2</FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#000000> Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to
them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called </FONT><I><FONT
color=#808080>to be</I></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2> saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus
Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:</FONT></P></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004>From Paul's greeting to the church at
Corinth, we glean that the letter was written to the whole Church, not just the
Elders.Although it is the Elders job to see to the Spiritual condition of the
Church, they are there because the Assembly recognized them as having the
qualifications to be elders. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=420535004-29102004>
<DIR><FONT color=#008080 size=3>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>1Ti 3:1</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#000000> This </FONT><I><FONT color=#808080>is</I></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000> a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop,
he desireth a good work.</FONT></P><FONT color=#008080>
<P><FONT face=Arial>1Ti 3:2</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000> A
bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good
behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; </FONT></P><FONT color=#008080>
<P><FONT face=Arial>1Ti 3:3</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000> Not
given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a
brawler, not covetous; </FONT></P><FONT color=#008080>
<P><FONT face=Arial>1Ti 3:4</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000> One
that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all
gravity; </FONT></P><FONT color=#008080>
<P><FONT face=Arial>1Ti 3:5</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000> (For if
a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church
of God?) </FONT></P><FONT color=#008080>
<P><FONT face=Arial>1Ti 3:6</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000> Not a
novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the
devil. </FONT></P><FONT color=#008080>
<P><FONT face=Arial>1Ti 3:7</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2> Moreover he must have a good report of them which are
without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.</FONT>
</FONT></FONT></FONT></P></DIR>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial color=#000000><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>The condition</FONT>
<FONT color=#0000ff>of the Church at Corinth was that of a Worldly Church, where
physical needs was more important then spiritual. The Breaking of Bread meeting
was in Shambles, there was fornication within the Assembly that was not dealt
with by the assembly. Paul, as a outsider to that Assembly, wrote to the
Assembly that they must AS a full assembly, meet together to deal with this
matter. (In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered
together<U>)</U><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><FONT face=Arial>It is the
responsibility for the Elders to initiate this meeting, and exercise discipline
in this matter. If this was a spiritual Assembly, the matter should have been
dealt with with the person concerned as soon as it happened, but now the whole
Assembly was tainted with his sin, and as such, had to be dealt with
publicly.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=420535004-29102004>We see
in 2 Cor 2 v 5 - 10 that this brother was restored to fellowship, as he
repented of his sin, and dealt with it.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004>Although Paul had judged this matter, ( it was not just
a rumor from Corinth, but a known fact) it was up to the Church at Corinth to
exercise judgment.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=420535004-29102004>Your
brother in Christ</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=420535004-29102004>Rob</SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message---<FONT size=3>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></FONT><FONT
size=3> </P></FONT>--<BR><B>From:</B> owner-meeting@kent.net
[mailto:owner-meeting@kent.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Don
Andersen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
meeting@kent.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Spam: meeting: Elders or Assembly
decisions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P>1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly [that there is] fornication among
you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that
one should have his father's wife. <I>2 </I>And ye are puffed up, and have not
rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from
among you. <I>3 </I>For<B> I </B>verily, as absent in body, but present in
spirit, <B>have judged already</B>, as though I were present, [concerning] him
that hath so done this deed, <I>4 </I>In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
<U>when ye are gathered together</U>, and my spirit, with the power of our
Lord Jesus Christ, <I>5 </I>To deliver such an one unto Satan for the
destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord
Jesus.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT></P>
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<P>We can see from the above passage that the Apostle himself had already
judged this matter. But, that wasn't enough. Would it have been
enough IF he had joined with several other Apostles in rendering his
decision?</P>
<P>Note the underlined portion. Is this Letter written to the
Elders? or is it written to the assembly? For example, can 3
elders put someone out of fellowship, or is an action by the entire assembly
required? btw, if you think this was just written to the elders,
then the fornication was among them.<BR><BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><STRONG><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Geneva">Your loving
brother,</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN
style="COLOR: #cc00ff; FONT-FAMILY: Geneva">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></STRONG></FONT></P>
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